Hva tror dere skjer med IS?

[Gjest Cartman]

IS blir vårt IRA og ETA. Den såkalte staten deres kommer til å bli knust, mens terrorismen i Europa kommer til å ødelegge våre liv. Terroristene kommer nå over russergrensa.

[Drizzt]

Jeg håper alle deres områder sønderknuses av bomber og napalm. 

[yxnyx]

20%?! Hæ, hvor har du hentet det tallet fra? :O Har hørt det er nærmere 0,003% av muslimene som er ekstremister.
Men nei, drap av lederen vil nok ikke ha noe å si. Dette er nok ganske selvgående mennesker som vil fullføre sin mening med livet uansett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoXgZLRee0

[WubWub]

 

20%?! Hæ, hvor har du hentet det tallet fra? :O Har hørt det er nærmere 0,003% av muslimene som er ekstremister.
Men nei, drap av lederen vil nok ikke ha noe å si. Dette er nok ganske selvgående mennesker som vil fullføre sin mening med livet uansett.

0,003% ? Hvor har DU fått dette absurde tallet fra? Kom med dokumentasjon så skal jeg gjøre det samme!

Her er grundig dokumentasjon på at tallene du opererer med er intet mindre enn sludder og vås fra ende til annen og at de ikke har NOEN forankring i virkeligheten : 

 

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: 
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.  1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.  13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/

Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193395

Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam".  1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt.  1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

 

 

[Tibbie]

0,003% ? Hvor har DU fått dette absurde tallet fra? Kom med dokumentasjon så skal jeg gjøre det samme!

Her er grundig dokumentasjon på at tallene du opererer med er intet mindre enn sludder og vås fra ende til annen og at de ikke har NOEN forankring i virkeligheten : 

 

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: 
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.  1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.  13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/

Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193395

Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam".  1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt.  1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

 

 

Jeg hørte det i en debatt. Men at 20% av verdens muslimer er terrorister er et tulletall. For da kjenner jeg bra mange terrorister!

Slenger ved en link jeg også: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

[yxnyx]

Jeg hørte det i en debatt. Men at 20% av verdens muslimer er terrorister er et tulletall. For da kjenner jeg bra mange terrorister!

Slenger ved en link jeg også: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

Det er forskjell på terrorister og ekstremister ;)

[Tibbie]

Det er forskjell på terrorister og ekstremister ;)

Men man er ikke terrorist uten å være ekstremist  Og en ekstremist er ingen vanlig muslim. Det er vel ikke så mange kristne som ser seg på lag med den kristne gruppen KKK?

[Druid]

Lederen i IS blir drept, sammen med noen fremstående medhjelpere. Dermed forsvinner kjernen i IS, og grupperingen mister sin relevans. 

Dette kommer imidlertid ikke til å hjelpe hverken Midt-Østen eller Europa det minste. Problemet er jo at bortimot 20% av verdens muslimer er klin gærne (ekstremister). Hvordan i huleste ordner du opp i et sånt problem?!

Dette er en veldig populær misforståelse. 

Der er ca 20 % fundementale muslimer, hoveddelen av disse er MINDRE problematiske enn vanlige muslimer, de blir som Amish, Smiths venner ellerJehovas Vitner å regne; de er primært ett problem for seg selv. Dette er f.eks de som er stormene tilhengere av Sharia, men anser det som uaktuelt å møte i ett valglokale. 

Den radikale militante delen som er villig til å bruke vold for å få til en islamsk styre, ligger på 250 -500 000 mennesker og er avhengig av 500 000 til 1 000 000 "relaterte tilhengere". Bare det å strippe IS for relaterte tilhengere, vil være nok til i praksis å fjerne trusselen IS representerer. 

[WubWub]

Linken du gir meg sier ingenting om ekstremisme. Hvor er dokumentasjonen på at bare 0,003% av muslimer er ekstreme?

Jeg gav deg akkurat et hav av dokumentasjon på at det du serverer ikke stemmer. 40% av muslimer i England vil ha sharia. 15-20% av muslimer i muslimske land (og europeiske) støtter selvmordsbomber eller terrorangrep mot vesten.

Så den 0,003% du snakker om må du nesten gi meg noe konkrete forskningsrapporter eller studier som viser til det du hevder.

Men for å avgjøre det en gang for alle, de fleste muslimer i verden inkludert i Europa ønsker sharia lover og da er man PER DEFINISJON ekstrem :

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

Overwhelming percentages of Muslims in many countries want Islamic law (sharia) to be the official law of the land, according to a worldwide survey by the Pew Research Center. But many supporters of sharia say it should apply only to their country’s Muslim population.

 

 

[WubWub]

Jeg hørte det i en debatt. Men at 20% av verdens muslimer er terrorister er et tulletall. For da kjenner jeg bra mange terrorister!

Slenger ved en link jeg også: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

Linken du gir meg sier ingenting om ekstremisme. Hvor er dokumentasjonen på at bare 0,003% av muslimer er ekstreme?

Jeg gav deg akkurat et hav av dokumentasjon på at det du serverer ikke stemmer. 40% av muslimer i England vil ha sharia. 15-20% av muslimer i muslimske land (og europeiske) støtter selvmordsbomber eller terrorangrep mot vesten.

Så den 0,003% du snakker om må du nesten gi meg noe konkrete forskningsrapporter eller studier som viser til det du hevder.

Men for å avgjøre det en gang for alle, de fleste muslimer i verden inkludert i Europa ønsker sharia lover og da er man PER DEFINISJON ekstrem :

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

Overwhelming percentages of Muslims in many countries want Islamic law (sharia) to be the official law of the land, according to a worldwide survey by the Pew Research Center. But many supporters of sharia say it should apply only to their country’s Muslim population.

[Druid]

Men for å avgjøre det en gang for alle, de fleste muslimer i verden inkludert i Europa ønsker sharia lover og da er man PER DEFINISJON ekstrem :

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

Overwhelming percentages of Muslims in many countries want Islamic law (sharia) to be the official law of the land, according to a worldwide survey by the Pew Research Center. But many supporters of sharia say it should apply only to their country’s Muslim population.

 Sharia er i bunn og grunn moralsk fundert lov. Hvis det er definisjonen på ekstrem, er ett flertall av verdens populasjon ekstrem;  der finnes idag INGEN demokratiske lovsystemer som ikke innholder moralsk lov. 

Du blander begrepet Sharia, med spesifikke  implementasjoner av Sharia. 

Men du har rett i at det er sterkt bekymringsfullt at såpass stor andel av muslimer i verden føler seg under angrep.  

[WubWub]

 Sharia er i bunn og grunn moralsk fundert lov. Hvis det er definisjonen på ekstrem, er ett flertall av verdens populasjon ekstrem;  der finnes idag INGEN demokratiske lovsystemer som ikke innholder moralsk lov. 

Du blander begrepet Sharia, med spesifikke  implementasjoner av Sharia. 

Men du har rett i at det er sterkt bekymringsfullt at såpass stor andel av muslimer i verden føler seg under angrep.  

Jeg kaller det umoral, og jeg syntes det er skremmende at muslimer ønsker at sharia skal innføres i vestlige demokratiske land å overstyre våre lover. 44% av muslimer i Europa ønsker dette. Når det er tilfelle, kan de ikke bare reise til et land som allerede har sharia istedenfor å forandre (ødelegge) samfunnene våre?

 

http://www.d-intl.com/2013/12/17/most-european-muslims-want-sharia/

Most European Muslims want sharia

A majority of Muslims want sharia law to take precedence over the secular laws of their European host countries. This according to a new survey WZB Berlin Social Science Center based on interviews with Muslims in six countries including Sweden. The survey ought to raise eyebrows among Western politicians say researchers.

Turkish and Moroccan immigrants to Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Holland and Sweden were asked three questions:

 

Is sharia is more important to you than the laws of the land you are living in? (Yes: 66 percent).
Do you think there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should be binding on all Muslims? (Yes: 75 percent).
Do you think Muslims ought to return to the ”Islams roots”? (Yes: 60 percent).
 

Those who answered yes to all questions were labeled ”consistent fundamentalists” – and they make up 44 percent of all Muslims covered by the survey. Fundamentalist attitudes are equally prevalent among younger and older Muslims.

[Druid]

Jeg kaller det umoral, og jeg syntes det er skremmende at muslimer ønsker at sharia skal innføres i vestlige demokratiske land å overstyre våre lover. 44% av muslimer i Europa ønsker dette. Når det er tilfelle, kan de ikke bare reise til et land som allerede har sharia istedenfor å forandre (ødelegge) samfunnene våre?

 

http://www.d-intl.com/2013/12/17/most-european-muslims-want-sharia/

Most European Muslims want sharia

A majority of Muslims want sharia law to take precedence over the secular laws of their European host countries. This according to a new survey WZB Berlin Social Science Center based on interviews with Muslims in six countries including Sweden. The survey ought to raise eyebrows among Western politicians say researchers.

Turkish and Moroccan immigrants to Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Holland and Sweden were asked three questions:

 

Is sharia is more important to you than the laws of the land you are living in? (Yes: 66 percent).
Do you think there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should be binding on all Muslims? (Yes: 75 percent).
Do you think Muslims ought to return to the ”Islams roots”? (Yes: 60 percent).
 

Those who answered yes to all questions were labeled ”consistent fundamentalists” – and they make up 44 percent of all Muslims covered by the survey. Fundamentalist attitudes are equally prevalent among younger and older Muslims.

Jeg håper dette var en populærjournalistisk fremstilling av undersøkelsen, ellers er det tragisk. 

Det faktum at kun 44% svarte ja på alle spørsmålene sier mere om hvor utvannet islam er som religion. Hadde du gjordt noe tilsvarende i forhold til Norske kristne burde du endt opp med langt over 60%

Spørsmål 1 handler på om du anser guds lover som viktigere enn landets; det mener ALLE religiøse, ellers er du ikke religiøs. Selv Kristne som har ett spesifikt bud om at de skal ligge unna verdslige regler, vil pålegge populasjonen sine regler.  

Spørsmål 2. Finnes det bare en rett tro: igjen hvis du ikke svarer ja, innrømmer du at troen din er tull. 

Spørsmål 3.  Bør man gå tilbake til kristendommens røtter;  Vel, har ikke sett gud komme med noen oppdateringer enda, så selvfølgelig!

[Lanista1984]

De fleste muslimer vil leve i fred. De ser på seg selv som mennesker og dernest religiøse.

De fleste muslimer bor ikke i Europa. De bor der hvor majoriteten av terroraksjoner rammer de som vi leve i fred. 

 

Men det endrer ikke det faktum at vi jakter radikale islamister over hele verden for å stoppe kjeften deres for godt. Og det er bra. Men det vil ta 80 år.

 

Om 80 år, vil vi så smått børste av oss heksebrenning, steinkasting og henging. Og begreper som vantro. De to største religionene vil da være fredelige. Vi har nesten temmet en. Vi må temme en til.

Så kan framtiden starte.

 

 

Endret 29. november 2015 av Lanista1984

[Gjest Cartman]

ISIS kommer til å tape i Syria og Irak. Dette kommer til å ta flere år, men de vil ikke klare å stå imot Syria, Irak, Iran, Hezbollah og Russland. Boko Haram vil også bli knust. Jeg er mer urolig for ISIS i Afghanistan og Libya. Afghanistan kommer til å ende i et helvetes kaos. Taliban, ISIS og Regjeringen kommer til å kjempe om makten.

 

Hvis ISIS får ha terrorbaser i enkelte land, så vil vesten bli skadelidende. Vi må bekjempe ISIS i en global kamp på flere kontinenter. Dette er en verdenskrig.