Israel har erklært våpenhvile

[Brunhilde]

Jeg leser i Dagbladet at Israel har erklært våpenhvile fra i natt kl 01.00 norsk tid.

Væpnede styrker vil være igjen i Gaza og rakettangrep vil bli slått ned på.

Er det redselen for verdnesopinionen som gjør at israelerne nå tar en pause, eller er det ikke mer igjen å ødelegge? Blir spennende å se hvor lenge våpenhvilen varer, men jeg er redd at det ikke tar lang tid før Israel igjen finner det nødvendig å gyve løs på en nasjon som allerede ligger nede.

Det er jo bare å håpe at jeg tar feil.

[Gjest Gjest]

Jeg leser i Dagbladet at Israel har erklært våpenhvile fra i natt kl 01.00 norsk tid.

Væpnede styrker vil være igjen i Gaza og rakettangrep vil bli slått ned på.

Er det redselen for verdnesopinionen som gjør at israelerne nå tar en pause, eller er det ikke mer igjen å ødelegge? Blir spennende å se hvor lenge våpenhvilen varer, men jeg er redd at det ikke tar lang tid før Israel igjen finner det nødvendig å gyve løs på en nasjon som allerede ligger nede.

Det er jo bare å håpe at jeg tar feil.

Hvis israel blir angrepet av raketter fra Gaza så skyter de tilbake. Det er jo det som alltid skjer. Det er jo ikke Israel som starter. Hvis palestinerne ønsker våpenhvile bør de altså ikke skyte raketter mot Israel eller sende selvmordsbombere til Israel.

[Gjest Gjest]

Hvis israel blir angrepet av raketter fra Gaza så skyter de tilbake. Det er jo det som alltid skjer. Det er jo ikke Israel som starter. Hvis palestinerne ønsker våpenhvile bør de altså ikke skyte raketter mot Israel eller sende selvmordsbombere til Israel.

Det er israel som har startet. De har okkupert. De har ikke tenkt å trekke seg ut.

Osama Bin Laden 28. september 2001:

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

Osama har ikke skjønt at 11. september var en inside job og spekulerer i hvorfor noen kan ha angrepet...

[Gjest Gjest]

Israel trenger din hjelp! Send penger nå!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDzfKjEcho

saveourrace:

The hypocracy of this video makes me sick.

collins:

For Jews everything is business..

Macro:

I thought Israel gets billions of dollars every year from the USA!!!

Setana:

Oh but they do, they do!

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism-i...et-attacks.html

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Israel trenger din hjelp! Send penger nå!

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At Israel trenger mer penger for å henrette resten av befolkningen på Gaza gir ikke den helt store givergleden vil jeg anta.

Israel har drept altfor mange barn og sivile, og burde istedenfor å mota penger for å fortsette krigen være økonomisk ansvarlig for oppbygging av ny infrastruktur på Gaza.

Jeg antar sympatien ligger hos Palestinerene og at det er de som vil motta pengestøtte fra frivillige i tiden sokm kommer, om vi ser bort fra USA.

[Gjest Gjest]

Hamas krever at Israel skal trekke seg ut, åpne grensene, for at de skal slutte å skyte raketter.

Israel vil ha våpenhvile, men beholder bakkestyrkene og lover å svare på angrep fra Hamas.

Altså, er det bare jeg som ikke ser noen våpenhvile?

[talin]

Blir spennende å se hvor lenge våpenhvilen varer, men jeg er redd at det ikke tar lang tid før Israel igjen finner det nødvendig å gyve løs på en nasjon som allerede ligger nede.

Omtrent så lenge det tar før de såkalte motstandsmenne i Hamaz klarer å smugle inn enda flere raketter som de skyter opp, aller helst ifra taket av et sykehus.

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Hamas krever at Israel skal trekke seg ut, åpne grensene, for at de skal slutte å skyte raketter.

Israel vil ha våpenhvile, men beholder bakkestyrkene og lover å svare på angrep fra Hamas.

Altså, er det bare jeg som ikke ser noen våpenhvile?

Du har rett. Dette er bare en annen måte som Israel bruker for å tilegne seg deler av Gaza stripen. Israel starter nok opp igjen om kort tid for å ta større del av Gaza. Deretter stopper de opp for så å fortsette krigen mot de sivile om noen år.

Som vi vet kan ikke Israel få nok landområder. De har også problemer med å drepe nok sivile Palestinere selv om de bomber både skoler og sykehus, så henrettelsene vil nok fortsette om ikke altfor lenge.

[Gjest Gjest]

Israelsk angrep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02K1aJsgUeY

[talin]

Som vi vet kan ikke Israel få nok landområder. De har også problemer med å drepe nok sivile Palestinere selv om de bomber både skoler og sykehus, så henrettelsene vil nok fortsette om ikke altfor lenge.

Og hvis noen hadde lest litt historie så hadde du vist at Israel har gitt ifra seg sirka 60 000 kvadratkilometer.

[Far til 2]

Og hvis noen hadde lest litt historie så hadde du vist at Israel har gitt ifra seg sirka 60 000 kvadratkilometer.

Hva sammelikner du med NÅ da ? Er du tilbake til 2000 år før vår tidsregning ?

Om du går 3500 år fremover er det kansje muslimene som har herredømme, så vi kan ikke regne fra den tidsepoken som passer oss best. Vi må holde oss til etableringen av Israel, enten før 2.verdenskrig eller etterpå (1948).

[talin]

Hva sammelikner du med NÅ da ? Er du tilbake til 2000 år før vår tidsregning ?

Om du går 3500 år fremover er det kansje muslimene som har herredømme, så vi kan ikke regne fra den tidsepoken som passer oss best.

:gjesp

Vi må holde oss til etableringen av Israel, enten før 2.verdenskrig eller etterpå (1948).

Vi er alt der.

[Gjest Gjest]

A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note -- Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. ---

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A CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a very frightening speech. This speech is an explanation of the plans now being laid to throw the United States into a third world war. It was made a short time ago before a large group in the Congressional `Room of the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C. Both the speech and the question and answer period later so electrified the audience that a group of patriots has transferred it to two long-playing records which you may buy to play for friends, clubs, and your church group in your community. The speaker is Mr. Benjamin Freedman, noted authority on Zionism and all of its schemes. Mr. Freedman is a former Jew, and I mean a FORMER Jew. He has fought the Communist world conspiracy tooth and nail, and stands today as a leading American patriot. We now take you to the speaker's platform to present Benjamin Freedman.

(applause)

[Freedman's speech]

What I intend to tell you tonight is something that you have never been able to learn from any other source, and what I tell you now concerns not only you, but your children and the survival of this country and Christianity. I'm not here just to dish up a few facts to send up your blood pressure, but I'm here to tell you things that will help you preserve what you consider the most sacred things in the world: the liberty, and the freedom, and the right to live as Christians, where you have a little dignity, and a little right to pursue the things that your conscience tells you are the right things, as Christians.

Now, first of all, I'd like to tell you that on August 25th 1960 -- that was shortly before elections -- Senator Kennedy, who is now the President of the United States, went to New York, and delivered an address to the Zionist Organization of America. In that address, to reduce it to its briefest form, he stated that he would use the armed forces of the United States to preserve the existence of the regime set up in Palestine by the Zionists who are now in occupation of that area.

In other words, Christian boys are going to be yanked out of their homes, away from their families, and sent abroad to fight in Palestine against the Christian and Moslem Arabs who merely want to return to their homes. And these Christian boys are going to be asked to shoot to kill these innocent [Arab Palestinians] people who only want to follow out fifteen resolutions passed by the United Nations in the last twelve years calling upon the Zionists to allow these people to return to their homes.

Now, when United States troops appear in the Middle East to fight with the Zionists as their allies to prevent the return of these people who were evicted from their homes in the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists who were transplanted there from Eastern Europe... when that happens, the United States will trigger World War III.

You say, when will that take place? The answer is, as soon as the difficulty between France and Algeria has been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have settled their difficulty, and the Arab world, or the Moslem world, has no more war on their hands with France, they are going to move these people back into their homes, and when they do that and President kennedy sends your sons to fight over there to help the crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent men, women and children, we will trigger World War III; and when that starts you can be sure we cannot emerge from that war a victor. We are going to lose that war because there is not one nation in the world that will let one of their sons fight with us for such a cause.

I know and speak to these ambassadors in Washington and the United Nations -- and of the ninety-nine nations there, I've consulted with maybe seventy of them -- and when we go to war in Palestine to help the thieves retain possession of what they have stolen from these innocent people we're not going to have a man there to fight with us as our ally.

And who will these people have supporting them, you ask. Well, four days after President Kennedy -- or he was then Senator Kennedy -- made that statement on August 28, 1960, the Arab nations called a meeting in Lebanon and there they decided to resurrect, or reactivate, the government of Palestine, which has been dormant more or less, since the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists.

Not only that... they ordered the creation of the Palestine Army, and they are now drilling maybe a half a million soldiers in that area of the world to lead these people back to their homeland. With them, they have as their allies all the nations of what is termed the Bandung Conference Group. That includes the Soviet Union and every Soviet Union satellite. It includes Red China; it includes every independent country in Asia and Africa; or eighty percent of the world's total population. Eighty percent of the world's population. Four out of five human beings on the face of the earth will be our enemies at war with us. And not alone are they four out of five human beings now on the face of this earth, but they are the non-Christian population of the world and they are the non-Caucasians... the non-white nations of the world, and that's what we face.

And what is the reason? The reason is that here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this -- time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement -- the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were -- I don't want to wear that out --- let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you. We were all asleep. What happened?

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation.

At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”

Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.”

The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.”

In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.”

Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain -- that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine -- should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.

However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German -- totally pro-German -- because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.

The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers -- the German-Jews -- Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.

Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.

Now the war -- World War One -- in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there -- we were railroaded into it -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened?

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened?

The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, “How about Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war.” And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm

[Gjest Gjest_jaja_*]

Du har rett. Dette er bare en annen måte som Israel bruker for å tilegne seg deler av Gaza stripen. Israel starter nok opp igjen om kort tid for å ta større del av Gaza. Deretter stopper de opp for så å fortsette krigen mot de sivile om noen år.

Som vi vet kan ikke Israel få nok landområder. De har også problemer med å drepe nok sivile Palestinere selv om de bomber både skoler og sykehus, så henrettelsene vil nok fortsette om ikke altfor lenge.

Det er godt å se at du forsetter din ensidige kampanje Far til 2. Selvfølgelig kommer Israel til å forsette mot sitt mål, som du helt rett sier er å henrette alle Palestinere. IDF må bare trene litt på treffe målene først. Det er jo helt utrolig at "De har også problemer med å drepe nok sivile Palestinere selv om de bomber både skoler og sykehus, så henrettelsene vil nok fortsette om ikke altfor lenge."

Det er betryggende å se at Hamas vil forsette sin terror mot Israel. Slike gutter trenger vi. Vi får bare forsette å gjøre vår del i henheld til Hamas-charteret artikkel 30.

"Jihad innebærer ikke bare å frakte våpen og sverte fienden. Å komme med positive kommentarer, skrive gode artikler og nyttige bøker og gi en hjelpende hånd er også jihad, slik Allah har anvist, så lenge hensikten er et oppriktig ønske om å gjøre hans banner enerådende."

[Gjest Gjest]

Før 11. september infiltrerte noen isrealitter absolutt alt i de amerikanske myndigheter ved å gjentatte ganger si til personalet at de solgte billig kunst. De infiltrerte t.o.m hemmelige kontorer og private uregistrerte boliger til betjenter. Deretter etterforsket de 11. september og fant ut at Laden skulle rive ned byggene til jødiske Silverstein. Det verste med disse smarte isrealittene var at de ikke sa noe til oss. De bare lot det skje...

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4148754/11175385

[Perhaps]

Er det redselen for verdnesopinionen som gjør at israelerne nå tar en pause, eller er det ikke mer igjen å ødelegge? Blir spennende å se hvor lenge våpenhvilen varer.

Verdensopinionen har jo holdt på like lenge som urolighetene i midt-østen har vart. Hadde Israel og Palestina faktisk hørt på den ville det ha vært permanent rolig i området. Jeg regner med at hele regionen er attention seekers.

De er så vant til konflikt at noe annet ville være utenkelig for folk.

Våpenhvilene kommer og går hele tiden. Fint for media.

[Gjest Gjest]

Hadde Israel og Palestina faktisk hørt på den ville det ha vært permanent rolig i området.

Vi vet at jødene arrangerer http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4176805/11241723"" target="_blank">falske flagg operasjoner</a>. De kan sørge for at en moske i Irak blir bombet og skylde på de andre muslimene for å skape krig og hat mellom muslimer.

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

2001:

U.S. military leaders proposed in 1962 a secret plan to commit terrorist acts against Americans and blame Cuba to create a pretext for invasion and the ouster of Communist leader Fidel Castro.

Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, presented the Operation Northwoods plan to Kennedy early in 1962. Lemnitzer and those who served with him in 1962 as chiefs of the nation's military branches are dead. But two former top Kennedy administration officials said yesterday that they were unaware of Operation Northwoods and questioned whether such a plan was ever drafted.

Robert S. McNamara, Kennedy's defense secretary, said: "I never heard of it. I can't believe the chiefs were talking about or engaged in what I would call CIA-type operations."

http://www.attackonamerica.net/operationnorthwoods.htm

Samtidig som gammel'n McNamara prøver å overbevise oss om at han ikke har peiling kommer han med en avsløring. Han har klare meninger om hva CIA pleier å holde på med. Og han kan ikke tro at sjefene blander seg opp i hva denne banden driver med...

En typisk CIA-operasjon:

http://cryptome.quintessenz.org/mirror/jcs-corrupt.htm

ABRAHAM

This name may be viewed either as meaning "father of many" in Hebrew or else as a contraction of ABRAM (1) and Hebrew הָמוֹן (hamon) "many, multitude". The biblical Abraham was originally named Abram but God changed his name (see Genesis 17:5). He led his followers from Ur into Canaan, and is regarded by the Jews as being the founder of the Hebrews through his son Isaac and by the Muslims as being the founder of the Arabs through his son Ishmael. A famous bearer of this name was Abraham Lincoln, the American president during the American Civil War.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/abraham

Jødiske Abraham Lincoln avslører bløffen, slik at ikke han skal bli mistenkt for å være med på dette, og for at folk skal tro at han avslører bløffer. Men jeg kan tenke meg det var endel bløffer på gang under Borgerkrigen også.

Endret 19. januar 2009 av Nigo-san

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Videoen: http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4176805/11241723

[Brunhilde]

Og den varte i 7 timer.

[Perhaps]

Vel vel, med en gang Israel meldte "våpenhvile" for noen få timers skyld, var det Palestina som kom på banen med rakettskyting mot Israel. Oi. Og da må selvsagt Israel oppheve "våpenhvilen" de nettopp hadde meldt. Oi. For en overraskelse. http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/utenriks/1.6438093

I midt-østen er alt som før. Om det ble fred, hva i all verden skulle folk finne på? Hamas ville ha blitt arbeidsledige, krigerne ville ha lurt på hva i all verden de skulle finne på i hverdagen når de plutselig ikke kunne sende raketter og skyte og sivilbefolkningen ville måtte søke psykologisk hjelp fordi det var så stille og fredelig. Jeg tror det er lurt om verden rundt lar midt-østen få lov til å bevare sine konflikter: tar man fra de konfliktene tar man fra de livsløgnen.

Endret 18. januar 2009 av Perhaps