Gjest Gjest_Kåre_* Skrevet 20. januar 2008 #1 Skrevet 20. januar 2008 Her er noen råd om å komme i prat med ukjente damer som jeg synes var ganske bra. Det er et spørsmål fra en gutt og så svaret fra en sjekkecoach. Two quick questions that i've encountered in the field: 1. When using a compliment/direct interest opener, how do you follow up the conversation and get it started? Most of the time Whenever I do it it's kind of like: Ex: Me: Hey I saw you standing over here and I have to say I really like your style, it's really fun and crazy. Her: Oh thanks. (smiles) Me: (awkward pause) Ummmm...So where are you from? Then things start to go slower, she looses interest and eventually one of us bails. Any suggestions on handling this sort of scenario. I really like more direct stuff and want to get better. ---> CHRISTIAN SAYS: AJ, after speaking with you and now reading this, I'm getting a feel for a consistent vibe that I think you're putting off, especially doing direct: 1.) you're not confident enough to pull off the strong direct opener 2.) you're expecting her to pick up a lot of conversational slack far too soon But its cool, we can deal with both of these issues. We're going to split this up into two parts: 1.) Delivery Confidence a.) nonverbals b.) word choice 2.) Post-Delivery a.) justifying the opener b.) your energy c.) the "non-transitionables" DELIVERY CONFIDENCE - NOVERBALS The key here is as follows: Your intent and your nonverbals must be as direct as your words. I use direct stuff like this all the time, because it gets right to the point. But it takes a strong man to pull it off. Look her in the eye. Say it with a sexual intent. Show her you take her seriously So when you're walking up to her, you make direct, intimate eye contact (review the Vibe Mastery piece "Getting the Look"). The look and vibe you're emanating is very direct - no BS, very strong. But also warm. You're very much *in control* of yourself and the interaction. She knows that you're not there to mess around and that you see her as a woman, not a girl. DELIVERY CONFIDENCE - WORD CHOICE Based on the conversations that you and I have had (and what I know about a lot of other guys I've worked with), direct is tough because you feel like you're giving up control to a woman - taking a risk, putting it all on the line. With the proper nonverbals and delivery, this couldn't be further from the truth. Direct gives you almost complete control, because you've stated your interest, and if she accepts your interest as legitimate, she's essentially agreed to continue talking to you on your terms. So now let's look at your word choice: "I really like your style, it's really crazy and fun." Not bad - you're justifying your interest in something about her. But it is still very noncomittal, and pretty vague. You're not giving yourself a lot of control with such generalities. How about something else? "I love your style. You've got a great look - you must be very creative." "I have to say - the way you've put your outfit together is so creative. I love your sense of style." "Your style really stands out amongst everyone here, and I had to get to know the person behind such a great outfit." POST-DELIVERY - JUSTIFYING THE OPENER Now let's talk about the transition out of that opener, assuming she accepts it and says something like "oh, thanks." In your example, you're jumping right into "interview questions" about where she's from, maybe what she does, etc... The problem here is that you've thrown away whatever credibility your opener gave you to talk to her, because you've not followed up on the attribute on which you're complimenting her. So let's run through a sample here that presents a better alternative: YOU: "Hi there, I saw you from across the room and I have to say - the way you've put your outfit together is so creative. I love your sense of style." HER: "Oh, thanks..." YOU: "Are you in the fashion business, or did your eye just develop naturally?" HER: "I guess it just kinda developed on its own." YOU: "That's awesome, you definitely stand out in here. What's your name?" HER: "I'm Danielle" YOU: "Hey Danielle, I'm AJ. Really cool to meet you." All of a sudden things are much warmer. Your opener has been justified by your interest in the follow-up questions and is congruent. Now you can move along to other topics like you hear us all do on Master the Vibe. POST-DELIVERY - YOUR ENERGY Ok AJ, having spoken with you, I can see where this part of your example comes from: "(awkward pause) Ummmm...So where are you from?" You're a high energy guy. But in your head, you've just dumped a lot of control onto the girl, and now you're backing off and hoping that she's going to take up the slack. But let's reverse the situation (and if this hasn't happened to you yet, get a better haircut and some cool outfits). A girl comes up to you out of the blue and says she likes your style. How would you respond? Would you just start chatting about something with her? Or would you be a little surprised, and need a second to compose yourself? Very few girls hear a real, genuine complement delivered in a way that makes them believe it. When they do, it takes them aback. So be prepared to transition into something else right away. There should be no pauses, no akward silences. You shouldn't be expecting her to pick up on the energy just yet. Its kind of like you've just popped someone with a taser, and you've got to carry that person along for a second while you wait for them to regain consciousness (note: please DO NOT use tasers on women you're talking to. This is illegal). Keep giving energy to the interaction. If she accepted your complement, keep flowing with a positive energy until she catches up to you. POST-DELIVERY - THE "NON-TRANSITIONABLES" Thus far we've been using your opener on her style. This is something she has developed and cultivated, so it is easy to compliment her on it. And you can transition into questions of how it developed, or mini cold-reads, like "you must be creative." But what about when you're complimenting her on her looks or some trait that she was born with? These are rare - even a nice smile can be followed upon with a question about whether she had braces. But in general, anything about her overall look, beauty or energy falls into the category of what I call "non-transitionable" direct openers. "Hi, I just had to come over and say hello. You have an incredible look - like a soft beauty - its very unique." "Excuse me - the way you move through this room - you have this energy that is so attractive." "I have to tell you - you're one of the most beautiful women I've ever shared airspace with." These are intense and you better say them with some confidence. But where do you go afterwards? Well, you have a few options. You can use the line popularized by Style - "But one thing I've learned is that beauty is common. Its more important what's on the inside. Wouldn't you agree?" I don't remember exactly how it goes, but its not great right after such a strong opener. You've already put her on the spot, and now you're qualifying her. Not likely to make her feel exactly comfy and cozy with you. You can go right into your transition. The only problem is that it doesn't allow for enough space for your complement to sink in: - "Wanna dance? (at the club) - "So are you mailing classified documents to china, or are those homemade brownies for your kid brother?" (at the post office) - "What brings you out tonight?" (at a bar) But the best option here is to introduce yourself, then go into your transition. It lets her warm up to you more, and for your opener to sink in, before transitioning. "Hey I gotta tell you - I wasn't even planning on being out tonight but I'm happy I came - you dance incredibly and it has made my night to see you just now." "Wow, uhhh... thanks!" "What's your name?" "I'm XXXXXXXX" "Cool, I'm Christian. Are you with a promoter tonight, have a table, here with friends...?"
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