Trerrorens årsak

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Hvorfor har vi terror i verden. Hver dag kan vi lese i aviser og se på TV at noen uskyldige blir drept eller skadet.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina41011.htm

Denne artikkele består av 5 sider. Les alle og reflekter.

[Gjest Anonymous]

Hvorfor har vi terror i verden. Hver dag kan vi lese i aviser og se på TV at noen uskyldige blir drept eller skadet.  

Selvfølgelig på grunn av hordene med blodtørstige muslimer.

Akkurat slik all ondskap hadde sitt utspring i kommunismen for 20 år siden.

...hurra for enkle løsninger, svart på hvitt og

frykten som drivkraft.

[Anglofil]

All form for fanatisme kan jo aldri føre noe godt med seg, uansett hvilken religion, gruppe etc, det er. Disse fanatiske gruppene vil jo alltid bruke motpartens utspill til egen fordel, og det er vel derfor det er så vanskelig å håndtere slike konflikter....

Mvh Yvonne

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Yvonne skriver:" Uansett hvilken religion, gruppe.."

Har Yvonne noen gang hørt om Jihad i Jesu navn? Kristne eller Buddhister som sender ungene sine med buss med sprengstoff festet til kroppen for å derpe flest mulig av passasjerene på bussen? Kristne som halshugger lastebilsjåfører og lager video av det?

[SuperNova]

Har Beduinen noen gang hørt om korstogene?

[Anglofil]

Har Beduinen noen gang hørt om korstogene?

Virker som Beduinen ikke har fulgt med i timene her....

Yvonne -Som selv er kristen

[ivanka]

beduinen har tydeligvis aldri noen gang hørt om Lord's Resistance Army.

særdeles voldelige kristenfanatikere med ett eneste mål: å styre Uganda etter de 10 bud. LRA består av 90% barnesoldater, og rekrutterer nye ved kidnapping.

[Anglofil]

Eller så kan man jo nevne IRA-det har jo blitt en terrorgruppe det også.

Mvh Yvonne

[Gjest BEDUINEN]

"Har BEDUINEN noen gang hørt om korstogene. Svar:JA!

Det står imidlertid dårlig til med historiekunnskapene blandt mine meddebattanter.

Da korstogene begynte hadde muslimske horder hejet Europa i 400 år. Det var foranledningen til korstogene.

Nei, jeg har ikke hørt om LRA. Hvor mange er de?

Har IRA noen gang kapret fly og fløyet inn i bygninger i London?

Jeg foreslår at debattantene leser all 5 sider i min link.

Ali Sina er frafallen muslim og lever i livsfare. Har vet hva han skriver om.

[Anglofil]

Vel, se en titt på hvordan Ariel Sharon herjer med palestinerne, som igjen fyrer oppunder. Her er det to sider, og dette handler faktisk om jøder mot palestinere. Eller så kan man kanskje se på de hedenske vikingtoktene vi bedrev for mange hundre år siden

Mvh Yvonne

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Skal jeg påta meg ansvaret og skylden for de hedenske vikingene? Vet du hva de hedenske vikingene drev med i Middelhavet? De sloss sammen med italienere for å forsvare Siclia fra å bli okkupert av muslimske horder. Dessverre tapte de.

Siden du er historie ekspert: Hva gjorde muslimer på Island?

[Gjest Dick]

In a recent speech, the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney, discussed the lessons that the American administration has learned since 9-11. He said that.....

....“with respect to the al Qaeda organization, or to a terrorist who is committed to jihad, who is out to kill infidels and is prepared to sacrifice their life in the process, the whole notion of deterrence is meaningless. There isn't anything they value highly enough that you can put at risk that would lead them to decide they wanted to change their policy.”

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Islamic History Misrepresented

By Reverend Austin Miles

Special to ASSIST News Service

In what could be perceived as an attempt to justify the attack on America by Islamic Jihad forces, Armstrong Williams, in his column distributed by Tribune Media Services titled: Three Religions Hijacked (Antioch Press, 11/01 issue), stated:

On or about 1095, Pope Urban II organized a holy war against Islam. Driven by the goal of uniting the European Empire under one identity, one religion, one pope, Christian soldiers promptly spent the next 196 years butchering Muslims in distant lands.

He went on to write:

Since these soldiers were ostensibly defending Christian ideals, in rhetoric, though plainly not in truth, Pope Urban II reasoned that the crusades would be pleasing to God.

The only thing butchered in this event was Williams' account of its history. The Christian Crusades began only after over 458 years of horrific attacks on Christians, their monasteries and the Vatican itself by invading Muslims.

After Islamic forces attacked and conquered Jerusalem and took over its Holy sites, the Catholic Church responded with the Crusades.

Here is an authentic history of Islam and the Crusades: Muhammad received his 'vision' on Mount Hira in 610 AD. In 624 he married the 10- year old daughter of Abu Bekr, who was named, Aisha. The following year, 625, he began dictating what would become known as the Koran.

Within four years after organizing Islam, the (real) slaughters began. Muhammad's forces captured Mecca. Muhammad wrote letters to all of the world's rulers explaining the principals of the Moslem faith. Persia was invaded and conquered, causing its leaders to appeal to China for help against Islamic terrorism.

Muhammad's forces captured Gaza and in 637, they invaded and conquered Jerusalem. They next attacked Armenia (639), Tripoli (642), and Cyprus in 649.

Muslims, on a rampage, invaded and conquered city after city, threatening civilization itself, creating a living nightmare for their victims.

Not only did the Muslims conquer entire areas like Sicily (878), making Palermo their capital, they had begun systematic attacks on monasteries after they attacked and damaged the Vatican in 846. This prompted Pope Leo IV to build the Leonine wall around the Vatican to protect it from future attacks by Islamic warriors.

In 1009 the Mohammedans sacked the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. The attacks and need for defense did not let up. Christians everywhere were being killed.

The Catholic Church could no longer sit and allow itself to be destroyed by this Jihad. St. Gregory VII had planned to organize a crusade in answer to anguished appeals from the shaky Eastern Empire but the fight over lay investiture had prevented him from doing so. Now Pope Urban II had no other choice but to take action against Islamic attacks.

Under his direction, the Crusades began in 1096. The Christian Knights were correctly called, The Defenders of The Faith. The first order of business was to recover the Holy Sepulcher of Christ that had been seized by Islamic Jihad warriors.

Williams' misleading Islamic history might be understandable since this propaganda had worked its way into history. Public discussions and presentations would represent that the Catholic Church had declared war on Islam. And this misinformation was possibly implanted in the mind of Williams who believed it to be a true account.

An example is an article titled, War: A Muslim Perspective, published in Christian History (10/05/01). Islamic historian, Hadia Dajani-Shakeel who is also co-editor of The Jihad and Its Times (Michigan, 1991), stated:

In 1095, Pope Urban II staged a massive military invasion of the Muslim East. That invasion and occupation caused the forced expulsion, conversion or enslavement of the Muslim majority.

Notice the total absence of the events leading up to that action. It was this deceptive view of history that Armstrong Williams propagated. While it would be understandable that Dajani-Shakeel had an agenda that would be furthered by passing off this skewed, incomplete history, Williams' agenda is not clear.

He not only misrepresented the Catholic role in the Crusades, but he went further by using the inflammatory word, "butchering" on the part of the Christian Crusaders who had no choice but to vigorously defend the church and Christianity. Self- defense is not butchery.

Crashing airplanes into buildings killing thousands of innocent people and hacking Christians to death around the world is.

If Williams, like too many others, is trying to be diplomatic and make nice, then this is political correctness gone mad.

To dissent and state an opinion is one thing. But to distort history and facts, which would serve to condone and excuse the evil that has been done to the United States and against non-Muslims throughout the world, is another.

First Amendment Rights and political correctness does not apply here.

This is not a blanket defense of the Catholic Church. They have been guilty of past atrocities of their own. This is not one of them. The church exercised extraordinary restraint for over 458 years before finally organizing the Crusades and fighting back.

With a more careful look at accurate historical accounts, world events can be sorted out more effectively and better decisions can be implemented for the future.

Rev. Austin Miles is a chaplain and historian. He has lectured on Circus History at the prestigious New York Museum of Natural History, the Staten Island Museum and lecture halls throughout New England. He was also the historical narrator for the Royal Lipizzan Stallion Show in its tours throughout the U.S., Canada, Alaska, Mexico and Puerto Rico. He was a writer-researcher and technical consultant for the multi-award winning TV series, Ancient Secrets of The Bible and is listed in the Who's Who Historical Encyclopedia. He can be contacted at xxxxxxx.

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[Gjest Anonymous]

Skal jeg påta meg ansvaret og skylden for de hedenske vikingene? Vet du hva de hedenske vikingene drev med i Middelhavet? De sloss sammen med italienere for å forsvare Siclia fra å bli okkupert av muslimske horder. Dessverre tapte de.

Siden du er historie ekspert: Hva gjorde muslimer på Island?

Dette er bare tull. Historie-eksperten Beduinen kan sikkert underbygge disse fantasiene sine.

[Gjest BEDUINEN]

Vær snill å post en link som forteller at dette er tull eller bestill og les denne:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...673432?v=glance

Hvis du ikke gidder, hvilket jeg er helt sikker på, kan du sette deg inn i sakene her:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/

Et og annet interessant finnes også her:

http://www.shadow-government.com/

Vår venn Bukhari som en gang i blandt er innom her forteller at Maurerne (muslimer fra Nordafrika) befridde Spania i 779 år. Vi andre kaller det besettelse.

Profeten Muhammed pålegger sine troende å islamisere hele verden med sin Jihad, og de er på god vei til å lykkes. Idag har islam en utststrekning fra Atlanterhavet til Kina. Husker noen tilbake til stridene om Østtimor?

Konflikten var en ren religionskrig mellom Kristne og muslimer. I dag er det stridigheter i sydthailand. Det er så langt borte at norske medier ikke dekker det, dessuten er det ikke PK å påpeke at muslimer er den aggresive part.

En smakebit på kvinners behandling under islam:

http://answering-islam.org/BehindVeil/btv3.html#CH3

Er dette trerror mot halve befolkningen, eller er det ikke?

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